- HP cp1700 Printer -
Intro This is my own printer which I have references to in other sections of my site. I plan on
putting more info here but haven't yet. (Just for reference on the quality, I got this printer in Feb of 2002.) 1 - Paper guides 2 - Tray 1 3 - Output tray 4 - Front manual feed 5 - Tray 2 6 - Top cover 7 - Printhead cover 8 - Ink cartridge cover 9 - Printhead access latch 10 - Hook 11 - Carriage lock Ok. It is now December of 2010 and I still haven't installed that Auto-Duplex Unit yet. -But- things are looking up. Now I want you to notice the Date above that this Printer was purchased. I would like you to also notice the 'Service Manual' in the selections on the left. This printer has been in service for over 8 years. The only thing that we have had to do to it, has been purchase new Ink Cartidges, replace the part that I broke and clean the Printheads as described below. Now, granted, we don't do as much printing as an office -but- we still do a lot and this printer has held up. Worth every penny of it. But now it is time to do some more involved Maintenance. The rollers are slipping on the paper and the Printheads finally need to be replaced. And I am ashamed to say, it is also very dusty. So whilst doing this I'm gona install my Auto-Duplex Unit. (Nope. Wife wouldn't let me. She needs the rear end feed and the Auto-Duplex doesn't have that feature!! Have to wait till I have some serious need for double sided printing.... I did in the past... oh well.) This is interfereing with my WebPages update -but- ya gota do what ya gota do. Besides this page probably needed some fixin'. (Or it will after this cause it will have a combination of the old style and the new style ... till I can get it all.) The big fix is described down below ... jump to it from Here.Vista & Win7!!! Well, you will find things in here that look like repeats and duplication. However, if you really read the info you will find that it may be just another way of doing something -or- it has another way of presenting that makes it more understandable. Primarily on the Vista and Win7 parts. I'll be dammed if I am gona toss this $500 HP cp1700 printer!! I like it and it has been good to us. Printouts and Pictures. We have done both and with satisfaction. Contrary to some other's experiences, ours have been good ... till Vista hit. My Wife needed a better computer and the one I got ... for a fablulous deal ... had/has Vista Ultimate on it. It is fine ... except ... for the printer driver. The claim is that Vista contains a driver for the cp1700. Well, it may but it is a piece of crap. Hopefully, I will have a positive response for anyone needing this. Right now all I am doing is gathering info and putting it all here in one place. I am trying to give credit to all -but- if I miss you, yell and I will add you to the credits. MS is Culprit: From HP Business Forums.
Don't place the blame for this on HP - Vista's source code switched to a closed format instead of shared so
MS wrote the drivers, -not- HP. Unfortunately they weren't very good at writing the drivers as MS did a blanket
approach to all the families of printers and what they came up with was a generic driver set that gave minimal
print capability. So, there you have the reason that our expensive printers are failing. -But- I'm not so sure that is a good excuse. If they can write drivers for new ones, then I'm sure they could re-write the drivers for the older ones... IF they really wanted to. So, what now??? Well, let's see if we can fix it... cause I believe that the same problem in in Windows 7... which I just got. Windows 7 Professional. And now the Info...Finally We start by looking at the cp1700's specification:
Had some printing problems and I had to break down and work on my own system!! Just like a mechanic, never have time to work on your own ... till it is broke. Now then, some or all of this information will apply to other HP printers and possibly to other manufacturers as well. Started having print problems(it is now 2009). There are a couple of reasons. Printheads bad OR just dirty
and the Ink Cartridges empty OR out of date. Now this is a fine printer, that is why I bought it. But it has some strange
and expensive traits. It has not only four Ink cartidges($35 each), it also has four Printheads($35 each). Needless to say,
we don't want to be required to replace these very often. In researching these problems I found this information: I did the above on my printer, cleaning of the printheads as described and I replaced the Magenta which was complaining that the date had expired.(found the info below AFTER purchasing a new cartridge. ) The cp1700 printer, now, still works as good as new.(01 May 09) Some parts of these Printers are delicate. Soooo, please exercise caution and gentleness when trying to fix them. Take breaks and try not to get to angry. IF you run into any problems, please, please search the Web for answers BEFORE using the Hammer. Print minus one Cartridge?? Simple answer is NO, unfortunately this printer even though you may select black only still
prints 'with' color. HP uses a technology called underprinting, the black ink is pigment based and doesn't bond to
paper on its own. When printing to the left it lays down cyan and when printing to the right it lays down magenta,
if you ever took time to look at the order of the print heads you will see that the cyan print head sits left of
the black print head and magenta is on the right.
Battery In the Printer!! It appears that HP wants you to 'Maintain Fresh Cartrides'... OR they just want to make more money under the guize of this concept. At any rate, there is a battery in this printer on the, as you face the printer from the front, left side.
Now then, it was mentioned above that the Cyan, Magenta and Black all work in conjunction with each other. Nothing was said about the Yellow. However, if that is all you have, it isn't very much good anyway. Yellow doesn't show up very well on White paper. Now then, I'm told that you can defeat the date code check by removing the battery. So, if you are a penny pincher then you can try that. However, I found a lot of difficulties in trying to refill these cartidges. -But- I lack patience and dexterity sometimes on some things. I, personally, think that new cartridges are better anyway. It will definately be the correct ink. Printhead Latch The hard part, really hard part, was finding another. You can -not- get them from HP. If you call their
Tech support, they won't even know what you are talking about!! If you know the internal HP part number they can order it,
but without that magic part number you're screwed.
Another individual also broke his and ran into the same problems. However, he had an ingenious fix.
You take the broken part as a template, get a #12 ACCO Binder clip, remove one of the bent wire handles, rebend the ends a
bit shorter, using the original part as a guide, clip the ends off a bit, replace the original with your home made version
and Viola! the printer hums along fine.
Print Jobs Fail to Be Deleted from Print Spooler In Windows 2000 and Windows XP, print jobs can get caught in the print spooler, which causes pending print jobs -not- to print. WINDOWS 2000
A progress message appears and the print spooler should be clear. WINDOWS XP
You can now print or remove the printer driver as required. The actual HP page for this, with pictures can be found at: Print Spooler Errors LCD panel and infrared lens Figure 1: LCD panel and infrared lens
More information can be found at:
Auto -or- Manual Duplex From HP
HP Color Inkjet cp1160 and cp1700 Series Printers - Printing Manual DuplexInformation
It is possible to print on both sides of the paper (duplex) without an automatic duplexer. Print on one side of the paper and then reload the paper into the printer to print on the other side of the paper. Follow the instructions below to print manual duplex.
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Installing auto-duplex unit (optional accessory)We have two panels. One is the normal panel and the other is the Auto-Duplex panel. When the HP Auto-Duplex Unit is installed, the rear manual-feed is unavailable. Also keep in mind that the Premium Paper and the Photo Paper will not duplex.
To perform auto-duplexing
CP1700 Service Stall Error Message. The Problem:
(as reported by Jack Pyburn on HP forum) Possible Fix: (as reported by Rudy on HP forum) And Another: (as reported by Rick Hamilton on HP forum) And Another: (as reported by sari on HP forum) http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/macosx/hpijs Paper Sizes HPIJS selects the paper size based on the physical paper size determined by Ghostscript. The following standard paper sizes are supported by HPIJS.
cp1700 A3 Driver in XP - Vesion 1.4 From: Software Driver Download - file will be cp1700En.exe and it is 41.6MB in size.
XP drivers on Vista and Windows 7 The notes from individuals I have copied below were concerning operations in Vista. Turns out that we will have the same problems in Windows 7. Like many people have said, "Windows 7 really should have been Vista Service Pack 3." I will verify that in the next few days. I got a copy of Windows 7 Professional for my wife's PC ... for her Birthday. From: Josh Duvauchelle on eHow Windows XP is an operating system released by Microsoft in 2001. Windows XP was replaced by the Windows Vista operating system in 2007. Many individuals who transitioned to Vista still wish to use peripheral devices (such as printers) that require Windows XP-specific drivers to function. Learn how to use Windows XP drivers on Windows Vista to keep such peripheral devices, save time and transition to Vista seamlessly.
In a nutshell, you are going to have to modify the installer and all Programs that are in this driver set to run in the Compatibility mode. Windows Vista is an operating system created and developed by the Microsoft Corporation. Vista is intended to be the direct successor of the Windows XP version of the Windows operating system. Due to software differences, Windows XP drivers are not directly compatible with Windows Vista. This technical challenge can be overcome if you install XP drivers in Vista so that your old XP devices work with the new operating system.
And from: Joanne Mendes on eHow Microsoft's Vista operating system has a lot of compatibility issues with older software programs and their drivers. Often Vista doesn't recognize their drivers or the drivers won't work properly in Vista. Fortunately, Vista has a built-in compatibility program that will allow you to manually change a program's driver to the older Windows XP version.
Perform these processes for each driver file you want to install, but be careful to monitor the entire process and verify that it actually works before proceeding with the use of your hardware. Custom Design - By eHow Contributing Writer # One of the greatest problems of using various applications and other installers on Vista is that many of these applications have been designed to work with a particular operating system such as Windows 2000/XP or in many cases Windows Millennium/Win98. Specifically, because of the change in folder locations that Vista made many software package installers had to be rewritten so as to ensure that the software would install correctly. As a result, the installers needed to be completely rewritten to become compatible with any newer operating systems.Workarounds - By eHow Contributing Writer # Microsoft Windows makes use of a different type of technique to ensure any compatibility for plug and play devices such as USB devices. The Microsoft development team has written software programs called "shims" which are meant for different types of applications so as to fool them into working properly on Windows Vista. In many cases these shims have prolonged the working life of various pieces of hardware but should not be counted on to work magic.
Another printer's solution ... possible with us... You can install the SiPix in XP, Vista, and Windows 7 x86 (32-bit) by adding the printer manually from the Printers list ("Add New Printer"), choosing the COM port you've hooked it up to, and then when Windows asks for the driver have it look for the driver in x:\Win2000. (x is the letter of the drive containing the Sipix CD). It will prompt you that the driver is not "certified", but tell it to install anyway, and you will have your Sipix working in XP and Vista. I was unable to test in Windows 7 because I use an x64 version and there aren't any x64 drivers for this printer.Use Windows Vista Compatibility Mode to Install Windows XP Drivers If you really can’t find Windows Vista driver for your hardware, you can try to fool the driver installation program to install in Windows Vista. How? By using Windows Vista Compatibility Mode so that the driver installation program think it is installing in Windows XP mode.Here is the picture of how to set Windows Vista Compatibility Mode Image source: http://www.winsupersite.com/ Driver Removal - Fixes Please do note that in the rare eventuality the the Driver Verifier Manager does find a non-conforming driver, there could be possibility that it may not be the offending one. So do exercise extreme caution. Regard the identified Driver/s with suspicious and exercise your best judgment in such case.Having narrowed down to the problematic Driver, you have 3 options : Update, Roll Back or Uninstall the Device Driver. To do that, open Device Manager. Open the properties dialog box for the device, and use the following buttons on the Driver tab to perform maintenance tasks:
Top The Big Fix 10 Dec 2010 Ok, here it is, the Big Fix. The first thing
to do is to clean it thoroughly. This procedure is described in the Users Manual. Now IF you have your
printer connected directly, you can find out the state of it from the Toolbox IF you have it installed.
We have ours Networked through a Netgear Printer Server so that doesn't work for us. Now this is stated
in the Users Manual: The printer does not require scheduled maintenance. You should REMEMBER!! If you have forgotten OR don't know... you must first turn the printer on. Then open the Ink Cartridge / Printhead Access cover. Wait for the 'Printhead Carriage' to move out from the side of the printer cover. Then Pull the power cord out from the back. (IF you turn the power off with the power button, the carriage will go back under the main cover.) You must push down and lift up on the 'Printhead Access Cover' in order to release the latch. It's like standing on one foot, patting your tummy and rubbing your head. Anyway, if you do it correctly the latch in the front will almost fall off. (do it wrong and you break it) Well, now, removed the Printheads and looky what we found. A big pile of Goop under the Printhead cariage. Because of the angle at which I took the picture, it looks like it is under the Red Printhead. It isn't. It is under the Black Printhead. Now we know where a lot of our Ink goes. It appears because of the consistency of the Ink, the Black one leaks! Can't think of any other reason for the pile. Not sure how to get it out of there either?! I don't feel like taking this thing that far apart right now and it doesn't appear to be hurting anything ... yet. Ok. Now pay attention here...
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