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Thunderbird --- Linux -and- Windows

    Elsewhere on my site I have talked about having a multi-boot system. The primary Systems are Windows XP Media Center and openSuSE Linux. The first OS came with the PC and it has some neat stuff that doesn't work with Linux ... yet. Let's face it, Windows and DOS have been around for years and will probably be around forever. That's where the money is. But that is another story.

    What I was leading up to is; I had Thunderbird installed on both OS's. However, they had separate mail boxes. Well guess what??? You can "link" files and directories in Linux. With that thought in mind I looked into getting one (1) set of mailboxes for both. Now Windows, believe it or not, also has linking. (Read Shell Shocked for more info on the subject.) It is simpler with Linux... at least at this moment in time.

    First you must setup Thunderbird in both. Create the accounts in the same order. In this case the Windows side is theoretically going to be the Master. Why? Because of the linking mentioned above. It is easier to link from the Linux side than it is from the Windows side. Course some may not agree, but that is the way it goes. In this particular setup, on 18Sep09, I am using:

  • openSuSE 11.1
  • Windows XP Media Center
  • NTFS - WinXP side
  • NTFS-3G - Linux side, an installable setup
  • Latest Thunderbird on both
  • Samba

    Which one first?? Well, since the Windows side is going to contain the mailboxes, it would seem to be prudent to create that side first. Most people would have the Win OS first anyway, cause that is what most PC's are sold with. Course, you could be like me and have both already and then decide to consolidate. Whatever, it can be a trivial or a monumentous task. Depends on the situation and your frame of mind.

    Now then the important parts are as follows:
First is what I consider my Main E-mail. It is the address that I pass on to everyone that I care about. I like airplanes so I've categorized my main mail boxes as separate fighters in the descriptions lines. Those of you familiar with Thunderbird will recognize that the first 5 lines come from the Account Settings. The next 3 come from the server settings. These MUST be the same on both OS's.

	F14 - chucktr@tr--compu.com on TRCompu
	Chuck Taylor
	chucktr@tr--compu.com
	chucktr@tr--compu.com
	TRComputing
	  pop.tr--compu.com          110
	  chucktr@tr--compu.com
	  pop.tr--compu.com
	
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	P51 - chucktr on Cox
	Chuck Taylor
	chucktr@cox--.net
	chucktr@cox--.net
	TRComputing
	  pop.west.cox.net
	  chucktr
	  pop.west.cox.net
	
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	F15 - TR on TR@tr--compu.com
	Chuck Taylor
	TR@tr--compu.com
	TR@tr--compu.com
	TRComputing
	  pop.tr--compu.com
	  TR@tr--compu.com
	  pop.tr--compu-1.com
	
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	SR71 - cmtaylor@tr--compu.com on TRCompu
	Chuck Taylor
	cmtaylor@tr--compu.com
	cmtaylor@tr--compu.com
	TRComputing
	  pop.tr--compu.com
	  cmtaylor@tr--compu.com
	  pop.tr--compu-2.com
	
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	Out Server on Cox
	smtp.west.cox.net
	25
	chucktr
	
  The only real problem I ran into was signing on for the first time. It didn't recognize my password!! Why?? I only moved the mail boxes. Well, came to find out that I only had the username, chucktr, in the username field for the tr--compu.com mailbox. It required the full address in the username: chucktr@tr--compu.com. This is just an FYI in case you run into a similar problem. Some only require the name and other require the full address.


Warning:  Unless you want to get a ton of unsolicited mail, more than you get already ... and ... worse yet someone using your address to send out bogus e-mails, DON'T put your address in a readily readable, scanable form. There are some culpits that search the Web for e-mail addresses.

    Now then, in case you don't know where the Mail boxes are, on Windows they are in:

  C:/Documents and Settings/HP_Administrator/Application Data/Thunderbird/Profiles/tn3yyyo5.default/Mail

Now here in my "Crash Recovery" (which you can read about elsewhere), I left the main owner name as the factory default "HP_Administrator". Mainly cause I forgot to change it and now because I have so much re-setup that it will be a pain to change it. Main point here?? Your name will be different. Various manufacturers use different defaults AND some people put in their own name of claim. The other differences will be that the slashes are in the other direction and the sub-dir under Profiles will have some other random name. Other than that... that is the path.

    On the Linux side the path is in a "hidden" directory under your home dir. The path is as follows:

  ~/.thunderbird/z797bvak.default/Mail

This one, we are first going to delete. Then, we are going to symbolically link it to the WinXP side as follows:

  ln -s "/windows/C/Documents and Settings/HP_Administrator/Application Data/Thunderbird/Profiles/tn3yyyo5.default/Mail" .

Yes. Leave in the quotes because of the spaces in the directory name. Now you will be able to read your e-mails on either system AND have the latest and never be out of sync. Cause it is always the same mail boxes!!

    Of course, ALL of the above assumes that you have a computer set up similar to mine. Invariably, there will be differences. After all these are "Personal Computers". I mentioned my Crash Recovery and that just happens to be another item that brought about this mail box consolidation. It took a long time to get my system the way it was ... before the crash... and I still don't have it all back. So, some of the items sent in e-mails to me, I couldn't view on the Linux side. So, I had to go to the Windows side. -But- there was a problem. When I went to the Windows side, the e-mail message was no longer up on the server. Why? Cause I had to have the mail system remove the e-mails from the server AS I read them or they became to many and I would either get yelled at and/or the mail would get rejected cause of a full box. The answer was to combine the boxes locally.

    Just as a follow up to the above paragraph. Yes, there are some ISP's that sense when you delete a mail locally and will then remove them from the server. So, you can use an option, "Keep the messages until I delete them." But, there are others that don't. My particular ISP for my main mail doesn't and I didn't particularly care for their e-mail program that I would have to use to delete the messages up on the server. (twisted) But don't get me wrong. I love my ISP. That e-mail interface is the only bad spot.

  What about Virtual Machines???

    I haven't done it yet -but- I'm sure that one could, apply the above concept to Virtual OS's that are created via VMware (my favorite). When using Win2K, like I am right now, inside Linux, I see absolutely no reason why I could not essentially do the same thing. The -big- difference being, this time I would want to link from the Virtual PC to my WinXP in order to still maintain the same mailboxes. I have performed other operations amoungst them. After all, my main purpose in using the Virtual concept is to have access to ALL at the same time. And to practice inter-machine operations. With VMware you can essentially have two, or more, machines in one. If I get around to reading and playing with the ideas discussed in Shell Shocked I will add the experience here. But don't count on it.


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Hopefully More to come ....

    And there is, also from About.com

    And for Thunderbird : AOL on T-Bird

    And for Vista : Vista Email Setup

    Some questions and answers at : QueryCat

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